09:00 – Wednesday, 17 November 2010
A: Administrative Matters (5 mins)
- Welcome
- Select a scribe
- Jabber Monitor
- Microphone Etiquette
- Approve Minutes from RIPE 60
- Finalise agenda
B. Current Policy Topics – Emilio Madaio, RIPE NCC (20-30 mins)
- Global policy overview “what’s going on?”
- Common policy topics in all regions (end of IPv4, transfers, …)
- Overview over concluded proposals in the RIPE region since RIPE 60
- 2008-07 Efficient Use of Historical IPv4 Resources – withdrawn
- 2009-01 Global Policy … Allocation of IPv4 to RIRs – accepted
- 2010-03 Global Policy State in RIPE PDP – withdrawn
- 2010-04 80% Rule Ambiguity Clean-up – accepted
- A Brief Overview of New Proposals (2010-05, 2010-06, 2010-07)
C. Document Cosmetic Surgeries Project - Emilio Madaio, RIPE NCC (10 mins)
- Update on current status
- How to go forward?
D. Rough Edges of Current Policies - Alex Le Heux, RIPE NCC (30 mins)
A report from the RIPE NCC Registration Services Department on issues and unintended side-effects showing up in the daily implementation of RIPE policies.
- Transfer policy and problems with business take-overs [problem statement]
- PI size distribution and its history (growing assignments) [background info]
- IPv6 PI vs. IPv4 PI – Background data [background info]
Discussion about the transfer policy issues, and what to do about it.
E. More Rough Edges of the Current Policies (10 mins)
“Things that have come up in various forums”
- Interpretation of “utilisation threshold” in IPv6 policy regarding /48 and /56s – Proposal by Arno Meulenkamp for wording clean up:
“It might be good to rephrase the text to “Subsequent allocation will be provided when an organisation (i.e. ISP/LIR) satisfies the evaluation threshold of past address utilisation in terms of assigned address space in units of /56 blocks.” (5.2.1, discussion on ipv6-ops [at] cluenet [dot] de)
[came up in discussion on the ipv6-ops list, presentation by Gert Doering]
- “End Site” Definition in RIPE 481, Section 2.9 - Sander Steffann
- Where there exist two ADSL links, not connected networks under the same legal organisation -> is there a conflict or not? 1 /48 or 2? Do we need to change the policy/clarify the policy text? This came up initially during a discussion between the working group chairs.
11:00 – Wednesday, 17 November 2010
G. Discussion of Open Policy Proposals, Not “PI-Related”
- 2010-01 Temporary Internet Number Assignment Policies [ONGOING] – Nick Hilliard (15 mins)
H. Discussion of Open Policy Proposals, “PI-Related”
- 2006-05 PI Assignment Size [ONGOING/REVIVED] – Nick Hilliard (15 mins)
- 2010-07 Ambiguity Clean-up on IPv6 Address Space Policy for IXPs [NEW] – Sergi Polischuk (10 mins)
I. Even More Rough Edges of Current Policies – Presentations & Discussions (45 mins)
- Definition of “openness” in the IPv6 EIX Policy – Gert Doering
- Initiated by 2010-07, but widening the scope from “wording change” to “figure out what the policy should be, *then* talk about specific wording”
- Generic IPv6 PI Discussion
- PI Background Information – Alex le Heux, RIPE NCC
- Background information about PI size distribution and its history (growing assignments)
- IPv6 PI vs. IPv4 PI – background data and information
- PI Background Information – Alex le Heux, RIPE NCC
- PI Differences between IPv4 and IPv6 – Discussion led by Gert Doering
- These differences have been under discussion since RIPE 59 – but no specific proposals are yet on the table yet. Is there a need to change the policy, or is it “mostly fine”?
09:00 – Thursday, 18 November 2010
T. Discussion of Open Policy Proposals, Part 3 (Older ongoing Proposals) (60 mins)
- 2010-05 – Global Policy for IPv4 Allocation by the IANA post exhaustion [NEW] – Jason Schiller et. al.
- 2008-08 Initial Certification Policy for PA Space Holders [ONGOING] – Nigel Titley, CA TF – Version 2 Update
- 2010-02 Allocations From the Last /8 [NEW] – Philip Smith and Alain Bidron
Y. Open Policy Hour
The Open Policy Hour is based on sessions held at the ARIN policy meetings. It offers a showcase for policy ideas. If you have a policy proposal you’d like to debut, prior to formally submitting it, this is your opportunity.
- Martin Hannigan / Jason Schiller: Proposal About Inter-RIR Transfers
Z. A.O.B.